DADT – We’ll work through that.

Focus on Diversity – It is what it is, we’ll work through that to.

Banning Tobacco Use in the Military – We *may* just have a mutiny on our hands if they actually try this.

Pentagon health experts are urging Defense Secretary Robert Gates to ban the use of tobacco by troops and end its sale on military property, a change that could dramatically alter a culture intertwined with smoking.
Jack Smith, head of the Pentagon’s office of clinical and program policy, says he will recommend that Gates adopt proposals by a federal study that cites rising tobacco use and higher costs for the Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs as reasons for the ban.

The study by the Institute of Medicine, requested by the VA and Pentagon, calls for a phased-in ban over a period of years, perhaps up to 20. “We’ll certainly be taking that recommendation forward,” Smith says.

The best part of this report, besides the overall idiocy in it, is this little gem

Also, the report said, troops worn out by repeated deployments often rely on cigarettes as a “stress reliever.” The study found that tobacco use in the military increased after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan began.

The clue phone must be ringing off the hook for these clowns. No kidding it’s stressful out there. You’ve already taken away porn and alcohol, now this??

If there’s one thing I’ve learned underway, it’s don’t take cigarettes away from the folks who have the guns.

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7 Responses to Mutiny

  1. Niall says:

    I agree with you on this one. I don’t think the people proposing this have any idea what kind of “stress” is relieved by soldiers’ cigarettes. Perhaps we could parachute these bureaucrats into Afghanistan, and let thetrm go on a few patrols. They’d be smoking in a week.

    Question: Is smoking allowed on submarines? I would think not, but I’ve been surprised before.

    You know, I travel the world on business. No other country is as hypocritical about smoking and drinking as the US. And, after coming back from Russia or Japan, I’m always amused to hear that we have a “drinking problem” or a “smoking problem” in the US. We have no idea.

  2. fastnav says:

    Smoking IS allowed on submarines, as is chewing tobacco.

    We limit it by only allowing it in certain spaces, and a certain number of people at a time.

    Other countries, not so much. I’ve heard on Turkish subs the limit is one person per space smoking at a time.

    and back in the day you could smoke anywhere, anytime on subs.

  3. Niall says:

    That’s really interesting. That means that air cleansing technology on modern subs must be top notch.

    What about booze? I was onboard a Russian frigate in the Black Sea once, and half the crew was drunk, and the other half was hungover. And this wasn’t after shore leave. That’s when I stopped worrying about the Russian military.

  4. Grandpa Bluewater. says:

    All the technology on modern subs is top notch. Kind of a tradition.

    Trident. From those of us who care enough to send the very best.

  5. fastnav says:

    As a Brit once told a friend of mine…

    “You know why the American Navy is so good? Because the rest of the world has beer and you’re pissed off about it.”

  6. virgil xenophon says:

    Remember Gen “Black-Jack Pershing’s WWI msg to the homefront higher HQ?: “Send tobacco! As much of it as fast as you can!. It is more important than food, blankets, bullets or boots!” The steadying, self-medicating effects of tobacco on troops under fire and the stress of combat should never be underestimated–and I’m not even a smoker.

  7. Jeff Lee says:

    I experimented as a kid with cigarettes and chewing tobacco, but left the stuff alone from age 16-23. The turning point came when I got to my boat. The boredom of watchstanding and monotony of submarine life in general got me smoking and dipping on a regular basis. Deployed military life involves a lot of sitting around and waiting, and cigarettes and dip help pass the time.

    I don’t use tobacco regularly anymore, but every time I’m in a situation where I’m sitting around bored, I want a fix of nicotine.

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